ONE Gas, inc (OGS) Q2 2021 Earnings Call Transcript @themotleyfool #stocks $OGS

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ONE Gas, inc (NYSE:OGS)
Q2 2021 Earnings Call
Aug 3, 2021, 11:00 a.m. ET

Contents:

  • Prepared Remarks
  • Questions and Answers
  • Call Participants

Prepared Remarks:

Operator

Good day, and welcome to the ONE Gas Second Quarter Earnings Conference Call. Today’s conference is being recorded. At this time, I’d like to turn the conference over to Mr. Brandon Lohse. Please go ahead.

Brandon LohseDirector of Investor Relations

Good morning, and thank you for joining us on our second quarter 2021 earnings conference call. This call is being webcast live and a replay will be made available later today. After our prepared remarks, we’ll be happy to take your questions.

A reminder that statements made during this call that might include ONE Gas expectations or predictions should be considered forward-looking statements and are covered by the Safe Harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995, Securities Act of 1933 and the Securities and Exchange Act of 1934, each, as amended. Actual results could differ materially from those projected in any forward-looking statements. For a discussion of factors that could cause actual results to differ, please refer to our SEC filings.

Joining us on the call this morning are Sid McAnnally, President and Chief Executive Officer; Caron Lawhorn, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer; and Curtis Dinan, Senior Vice President and Chief Operating Officer.

And now, I’ll turn the call over to Sid for opening remarks.

Sid McAnnallySenior Vice President & Chief Operating Officer

Thank you. Brandon and good morning. Before discussing our quarterly results, I’d like to share how excited I am to have a new role at ONE Gas to congratulate Curtis on his promotion to Chief Operating Officer and to acknowledge the trust that our Board has placed in our leadership team.

ONE Gas is built on a solid foundation of core values and a commitment to our employees, shareholders, communities, and investors. And we will continue our tradition of service to each of these stakeholders. Additionally, our focused business strategy, constructive regulatory environments, stable cash flow, and an unwavering commitment to safety remains central to our sustainable business model. Our values, coupled with a well-defined strategy have guided this Company since inception. And we’ll continue to keep us on the right path as we move forward.

Regarding our second quarter, our results are consistent with our plan. In response to the unique challenges, earlier this year related to Winter Storm Uri and the evolving COVID environment, our employees have remained focused on execution and dedicated to our strategy. Among the positive results that Curtis will cover is the fact that we continue to see robust customer growth and opportunities for investment.

I’d like to turn it over first to Caron to provide an overview of our second quarter financial results.

Caron?

Caron LawhornSenior Vice President & Chief Financial Officer

Thanks, Sid, and good morning. I’ll begin with our financial results for the second quarter.

Net income was $30.1 million or $0.56 per diluted share compared with $25.3 million or $0.48 per diluted share for the second quarter 2020. Our results for the quarter reflect an increase in net margin of $11.1 million over the same last year; the primary drivers of which are new rates and customer growth in Texas and Oklahoma. Operating costs increased $1.2 million compared with the same period last year due primarily to an increase in outside services and employee-related costs. Offsetting these increases were lower bad debt expense and a decrease expenses related to the COVID-19 pandemic. While we are still experiencing impacts from COVID-19, including lower fees and ongoing expenses, the year-over-year impacts are moderating. Looking specifically at bad debt expense, our year-to-date expense is $5.5 million. That compares with $7.6 million through June of last year and $3.6 million in 2019.

As Curtis will discuss momentarily, we have resumed collections activity throughout our service territory, which is beginning to positively impact our collections and reduced past-due balances. We have not recorded any regulatory assets associated with the pandemic. There was no significant change in our capital expenditures quarter-over-quarter and we are on track to achieve our capital plans for the year. Authorized rate base, reflecting our recent regulatory activity is approximately $4 billion as of June 30. Authorized rate base is defined as the rate base reflected and completed the regulatory proceedings, including full rate cases and interim rate filings. We project that for 2021 our average — our estimated average rate base, which is defined as authorized rate base plus additional investments in our system and other changes in the components of our rate base that are not yet reflected in approved regulatory filings will be approximately $4.23 billion with 42% in Oklahoma, 29% in Kansas and 29% in Texas.

Moving onto our financing activity and liquidity; in June we increased the capacity of our commercial paper program to $1 billion, up from $700 million. This action follows the upsizing of our credit facility to $1 billion earlier this year. We ended the quarter with $209 million of cash and cash equivalents, no commercial paper outstanding and no borrowings under our credit facility. During the second quarter, we generated net proceeds of approximately $15 million from equity issuances under the $250 million at-the-market equity program we put in place in 2020, leaving us with $221 million of equity available for issuance. Regarding Winter Storm Uri, we have deferred just under $2 billion of costs as of June 30, which are included in regulatory assets on our balance sheet. Curtis will describe the state of play in each state regarding the process and timeline for recovering these costs through securitization. On July 19, the ONE Gas Board of Directors declared a dividend of $0.58 per share, unchanged from the previous quarter. Lastly, we are reaffirming our 2021 financial guidance, including net income of $198 million to $210 million, earnings per diluted share of $3.68 to $3.92 and with capital investments remaining at $540 million.

Now, I will turn it over to Curtis to update you on the latest developments of regulatory, commercial, and operations.

Curtis?

Curtis DinanSenior Vice President & Chief Commercial Officer

Thank you, Caron, and good morning, everyone. I’ll start with an update on securitization and other regulatory activity. In all three states where we operate, legislation was passed permitting natural gas utilities to pursue securitization to finance extraordinary expenses incurred during Winter Storm Uri. On July 30, we made securitization filings in all three states.

Oklahoma Natural Gas filed its compliance report with the Oklahoma Corporation Commission detailing the extent of extraordinary costs incurred and all the required components necessary for the issuance of the financing order, including a proposed period of 20 years, over which these costs will be collected from customers. The OCC has 180 days to issue a financing order. If the OCC approves the financing order, the Oklahoma Development Finance Authority will have 24 months to complete the process of issuing securitized bonds. As of June 30, Oklahoma Natural Gas has deferred approximately $1.32 billion of costs. Kansas Gas Service filed it’s compliance report with the Kansas Corporation Commission, which includes a proposal to issue securitized bonds and collect the extraordinary costs incurred over a period of five, seven, or 10 years. A procedural schedule will be developed to determine the timeline for evaluating Kansas Gas Service’s compliance report.

If the KCC approves the proposed financing plan then Kansas Gas Service will file an application for a financing order for the issuance of securitized utility tariff bonds. The KCC will have 180 days from the date of this filing to issue an order. If the KCC approves the financing order, we can begin the process to issue the securitized bonds. As of June 30, Kansas Gas Service has deferred approximately $383 million in cost.

Texas Gas Service filed an application with the Railroad Commission of Texas for an order authorizing the amount of extraordinary costs for recovery and other requirements necessary for the issuance of securitized bonds. The RRC has 150 days to consider the application and an additional 90 days to issue a single financing order for all natural gas utilities participating in securitization, which will include a determination of the period over which the costs will be collected from customers. The bond issuance of the financing order, the Texas Public Financing Authority will begin the process to issue securitized bonds. As of June 30, Texas Gas Service has deferred approximately $286 million in costs. We are pleased with the passage of securitization legislation as it represents just one example of how our Company has been successful and creatively and strategically engaging stakeholders.

I would also like to highlight a few other legislative achievements that our government affairs team has been working on across our jurisdictions. All three of our states have now passed energy choice legislation, ensuring our current and future customers can choose reliable and affordable natural gas for their homes and businesses.

Oklahoma passed the safety bill designed to reduce third-party damages by requiring excavators to validate the facilities have been located and marked prior to commencing excavation work. Finally, Kansas passed the move over bill requiring motorists to yield the right of way to stationary public utility vehicles or workers when engaged in work activities. These recent legislative successes are just a few examples of how ONE Gas continues to utilize all available means to strengthen its long-term position by improving safety for our employees, communities, and the environment providing customers choice to meet their energy needs, and keeping natural gas service affordable for our customers. Now, shifting to our other regulatory activity.

In May, Oklahoma Natural Gas filed a general rate case, seeking a revenue increase of $28.7 million. The revenue requirement is based on a requested return on equity of 9.95%, applied to a rate base of over $1.7 billion. The filing also requested the continuation of the performance based rate change mechanism that was established in 2009. The filing is based on allowed return on equity range of 9.45% to 10.45% and 9.95% midpoint. The rate case also includes a request to spend $10 million per year on renewable natural gas as part of our gas supply portfolio. The cost of which would be recovered through our purchase gas adjustment mechanism as well as $10 million of annual capital expenditures for renewable natural gas projects that would be included in rate base. A hearing is scheduled for October 28 and the OCC has 180 days to issue an order. In June, Kansas Gas Service completed the transition period and is now operating the natural gas distribution system at the Fort Riley military base. Also Kansas Gas Service expects to make a Gas System Reliability Surcharge filing in August for the period, covering July 2020 through June 2021.

In February, Texas Gas Service filed for a $10.7 million increase related to its Gas Reliability Infrastructure Program in the Central Gulf service area and new rates became effective in June. In March, we completed GRIP filings for all customers in the West Texas service area, requesting an increase of $9.7 million. In July new rates became effective for all customers except for the city of El Paso. On June 21, the city of El Paso approved a motion, which found the GRIP filing to be in compliance with the statute. The city then denied the increase and assessed fees associated with its review of the filing. Texas Gas Service filed on appeal with the RRC on July 2. The appeal is on the Commission’s agenda for today and we received notification that they have granted our appeal and approved the rate increase. New rates are effective immediately.

In April, Texas Gas Service made cost of service adjustments filings for the incorporated cities in the service areas of the Rio Grande Valley and North Texas. In July, the cities agreed to increases of $3.5 million and $1.4 million for the Rio Grande Valley and North Texas service areas, respectively. New rates became effective in August.

Moving on to commercial and operational activities. As Caron mentioned, all collection activities were resumed during the quarter, which was a key contributor to reducing bad debt expense. The primary focus of our customer service teams is to help our customers bring their account balances current. These efforts include payment arrangement plans and contacts with social service agencies that offer financial assistance. The field operations team teams have done a great job of managing the disconnect and reconnect process as well over 50% of disconnected customers have been reconnected at the end of July. And thanks to the efforts of these teams, we’ve seen a 44% decline in past due balances since March 31. We continue at a near record pace for new customer connections. We’ve spoken a lot recently about the growth we’re seeing in Austin that El Paso, Oklahoma City, and Tulsa, continue to experience robust demand for housing and new natural gas services.

We also continue to make progress on a number of initiatives around renewable fuels. In addition to the renewable natural gas provisions, we requested in the Oklahoma general rate case that I mentioned earlier, collaboration with Vanguard Renewables continues to progress. We have been working with them on an in-depth market assessment across our territories and we’ll provide updates when appropriate.

And finally, Oklahoma Governor Stitt signed a new bill, creating the Hydrogen Production, Transportation and Infrastructure Task Force. The task force is chaired by Energy Secretary Wagner and will study issues involving the production and distribution of hydrogen, including using existing pipeline infrastructure to transport hydrogen fuel. ONE Gas will be an active participant in these studies and the task force report is due in December.

And now, I’ll turn it over to Sid for his closing remarks.

Sid McAnnallySenior Vice President & Chief Operating Officer

Thank you, both. Each year, the American Gas Association collects data on the safety performance of member companies. Earlier this year, we were notified that ONE Gas is in the top quartile of all three safety metrics reported by AGA. In addition, our employees received the AGA Safety Award for the fourth consecutive year, an award given to the company that has the lowest rate of serious injuries compared to our peers. Congratulations to our employees for this recognition and outstanding performance.

As I close today, I’d like to thank Pierce Norton for his leadership as our CEO over the past seven years and for setting the course that has resulted in a resilient and reliable energy delivery system, while creating value for all of our stakeholders. We wish Pierce and his family well in their future endeavors. I’d also like to thank Caron, Curtis and the members of our leadership team. They made our leadership transition seamless, and I look forward to our work together as we build on our solid foundation focused on system modernization, pursuing growth and driving innovation.

I’ll close by recognizing that our success this quarter is the result of the skill and dedication of our 3,700 employee, each one playing an important role in delivering natural gas service safely and reliably every day to our more than 2.2 million customers. Thank you for living out our core values and serving our customers and communities every day. Thank you all for joining us this morning.

Operator, we’re now ready for questions.

Questions and Answers:

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] We’ll take our first question from Gabe Moreen with Mizuho.

Gabe MoreenMizuho — Analyst

Hey, good morning, everyone. Maybe quite — good morning. If I could start off with kind of what happened in the city of El Paso. Was that was something unexpected? Maybe if you can talk about kind of the — which is the rationale was an increase [Phonetic] and if that’s something you expect I guess going forward?

Curtis DinanSenior Vice President & Chief Commercial Officer

So Gabe, GRIP filings are as it operated you, it’s very much just a process of following the statute. You make the filing, its review to see if you’re in compliance with the filing of the rates are improved. So it was unusual that they did not — that they found that we had complied with the statute, but then denied the increase, which was the basis for our appeal that we made July 2 and was granted and approved today. So it’s not the first time that we’ve had an appeal in a similar circumstance and the outcome was the same. So, I don’t know that I would call it necessarily a trend. The last time was several years ago. Certainly hope it’s not a trend, but the appeal process worked effectively and the new rates go into effect today. And just to clarify my comments earlier too, the other cities in the West Texas service area, as well as the unincorporated areas that the RRC has jurisdiction over had already approved the new rates or allowed the new rates to go into effect and then the statutes. So it was a bit of a one-off, I would say.

Gabe MoreenMizuho — Analyst

Thanks, Curtis. And then maybe if I can switch gears a little bit to sort of the RNG efforts, and I’m just wondering, I guess maybe a multi-part question here. One was the survey with Vanguard of sort of low hanging RNG through what that’s kind of produced around your systems whether those projects are kind of ready to go. And should we assume that $10 million in Oklahoma annually is kind of what you feel comfortable with, I guess from an opportunity set standpoint or is it just hey, this is initially, what you want to seek out, but there is — but the cash flow or something greater here based on I guess what the Vanguard survey and kind of [indecipherable] has produced.

Curtis DinanSenior Vice President & Chief Commercial Officer

Yes. So, Gabe, first on the Vanguard study that is still in process. We’ve seen some preliminary results of it and we’re encouraged by what we’re seeing and what the opportunities may be coming out of it. Many of those will be third-party dollars that develop those projects and our role in the transaction will be is the transporter of the gas through our system because of the potential location of a lot of those facilities. We do also want to continue though to explore and that’s why you saw the two items in our ONG [Phonetic] rate case, which was number one to be able to inject some amount of RNG into our system. And then, secondly, to have some level of capital dollars that we could invest directly in that as an initial step to see how that process might work and what the benefits would be to our system and to our customers. So we’re still, I would say, in spring training in many ways around this process, but we’re encouraged by the progress we continue to make and will make more comments as we have more information to share.

Gabe MoreenMizuho — Analyst

And Curtis, if I could just follow up real quick on that, and so that it would be hey, you can rate base some of the investments that as far as the cost of the RNG itself that would basically put through the PGA with our own?

Curtis DinanSenior Vice President & Chief Commercial Officer

Yes. So you’re exactly right on that. From a capital request that we’ve made. And then from the ability to purchase RNG just like wellhead gas and run that through our cost of gas adjustments. But then, secondly, if it is a transport customer that’s just using our system to move the product and we would collect a transport fee for that and those gas costs don’t get accounted for through our PGA. Those just are again, they’re just a balancing arrangement of transport fee that we collect to provide that service.

Gabe MoreenMizuho — Analyst

Got it. Thanks, guys. And congrats everyone on the new positions.

Curtis DinanSenior Vice President & Chief Commercial Officer

Thanks.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] We’ll take our next question from Stephen Byrd with Morgan Stanley.

Stephen ByrdMorgan Stanley — Analyst

Hey, good morning.

Sid McAnnallySenior Vice President & Chief Operating Officer

Good morning.

Stephen ByrdMorgan Stanley — Analyst

Congrats on the new positions as well. So an echo that a great update. I wanted to just step back on RNG a little bit and talk more broadly. I mean, we’re excited about the opportunity for RNG broadly. We do sometimes get pushed back about the magnitude and also just about the cost of the environmental benefits relative to your core business. And as you noted, you’ve got really strong legislative and policy and political support for your core product. How — when we think about longer-term potential here, how would you sort of respond in terms of potential skepticism on how big this can be and also just on the cost of RNG broadly?

Curtis DinanSenior Vice President & Chief Commercial Officer

Those are all fair questions and I think part of the answer depends on what problem you’re trying to solve. And so, if you’re just thinking of a problem as I’m going to compare the cost of RNG to wellhead gas, we see that wellhead gas is cheaper and as much more abundant. If you’re — the problem you’re trying to solve or the question is more about from an environmental perspective, then that changes the answer because in terms of reducing the impact of emissions and the cost of doing so, RNG is a really good answer for that. And you don’t have to completely displace all the wellhead gas from a system to get to a point where you would be on a net zero emissions basis. So, there are some added costs to do that and it depends on what the goals are that you’re trying to achieve. So, I think the important thing for us to do is to know how to be able to respond to both of those environments.

We obviously already know how to handle wellhead, gas that as the focus continues to be around the ESG and emissions reductions that is a great path forward for us to be able to do that and that’s why we’re being so methodical and going through evaluating the sources of RNG that are available, establishing the tariffs and the gas quality specs that would be necessary to bring that product into our system, and the interconnect agreements necessary to do that. So, that we’re prepared for where directionally we think things are going in the longer term.

Sid McAnnallySenior Vice President & Chief Operating Officer

Yes, and to your question about abundance, one of the things that we often see our studies that make broad generalizations about supply rather than looking at specific footprints. So, I would encourage you to look at or will be glad to provide additional information at some point, but speaks to the capacity in our territory. As Curtis pointed out, we wouldn’t be pursuing the robust nature of the review that’s underway if we didn’t have confidence that there was substantial supply to support a meaningful RNG program.

Stephen ByrdMorgan Stanley — Analyst

Well, that’s really helpful. I’d love to follow up and it’s a fair point that you need to really look at the specifics for you all and how this may play out. And I guess as a follow-up on this, just when you look at federal policy support, there’s a lot of interest in the broader infrastructure package, not the more narrow one, but really the broader one and what that might do. What do you think in terms of the potential support that you might see for RNG or other initiatives that could be in that broader packages. Could that be beneficial or is it too early to tell? How are you all thinking about that?

Curtis DinanSenior Vice President & Chief Commercial Officer

Yes, I would say it’s really pretty early in that process. There’s been a lot of ideas that have been thrown out whether it’s RNG, it’s hydrogen or some of the other provisions that you’ve mentioned. And we’re continuing to watch that. We’re continuing to work with our industry, partner being led by AGA in reviewing that as well as trying to have some influence on what may or may not end up in that legislation. So too early to tell, but we continue to stay engaged to see where that bill may end up.

Sid McAnnallySenior Vice President & Chief Operating Officer

Yes. Also encouraging to see the conversation around resilience that is a part of the dialog that is underpinning both of the bills. There seems to be a more general recognition after the events of earlier this year that our systems’ play a critical role in providing support to the overall energy system and so resilience we think will be a theme that will continue to go forward and we look forward to be in the part of that conversation.

Stephen ByrdMorgan Stanley — Analyst

That’s really helpful. That’s all I had. Thank you.

Sid McAnnallySenior Vice President & Chief Operating Officer

Thank you.

Operator

We will take our next question from Kody Clark with Bank of America.

Kody ClarkBank of America — Analyst

Hey, good morning, everyone. And again, congratulations on the new roles.

Sid McAnnallySenior Vice President & Chief Operating Officer

Good morning, Kody. Thank you.

Kody ClarkBank of America — Analyst

So kind of sticking with the capex theme, but maybe moving away from RNG and talking more about core capex and you kind of just mentioned it in your answer to the previous question here, but you’ve talked about the potential for additional investment in reliability and resiliency. But if you could maybe just add a little bit more color on how you’re thinking about that. Is it kind of plays into the shorter term and what you’re seeing kind of the investment here as you look across your system?

Sid McAnnallySenior Vice President & Chief Operating Officer

Sure. Let me speak to that generally, and then let Curtis come in with any specific that he cares to add. We continue to have confidence in our system modernization strategy. It’s allowed us to strategically de-risk the system. It also provides environmental benefits as we further tighten our system and we think it’s good capital deployment, but as you heard in Curtis’ remarks. We — our growth profile encourages us to think about how we fully capture opportunities both now and in the future. So, a couple of points there.

Structurally, we redefine the COO role. So as Curtis came into that role, we added the operations vertical to the growth vertical that he’d been managing previously. So that allows us to better coordinate the system safety focus that we’ve had with the growth opportunities that we are seeing both now and emerging in the future. Second, we’ve really focused on developing our growth team. As we think about growth, the opportunity to pick up talent in the industry, particularly some outside the regulated utility space has been meaningful to us and we think that deep bench is going to — it bodes well for us as we look to the future. And finally, it’s important to remember, and this goes back to a previous answer our service territory is unique in many ways, but right now we are seeing significant in-migration of residents across the service territory and we are also seeing a lot of economic activity both traditional economic activity and new industries coming into the areas and maybe most significantly, there is a bias for natural gas service in the activity in our service territory. So we think that is a bright future and holds promise for us as we seek to pursue that opportunity.

Finally, we think there are opportunities for us around ESG, and while your question focuses on capital deployment, there is an ESG element to that capital deployment that’s important and is a lens that we have added to the analysis that we use going forward. So Caron is leading our ESG efforts and we’ve added infrastructure to that effort that we think is appropriate for our Company. So focused continuity I think is the headline for our capital deployment. We’ve had a good theme. We’ve executed on that. We’ll continue to execute on it, but we do think there is an emerging opportunities that we’re excited about and we are supporting. Curtis anything you’d add?

Curtis DinanSenior Vice President & Chief Commercial Officer

Just maybe to dig a little deeper into that. We’ve talked in the past that approximately 70% of our capital expenditures go toward system integrity and reliability projects. That’s been consistent since we came out as a stand-alone company remains consistent today in what our focus continues to be. So that includes not only replacing older pipe as Sid was talking about that has a really good environmental story because you reduce leaks on your system and the resulting emissions as well as that being a really good safety impact as well. But we also spent dollars on reliability of our system. So connecting our systems to additional points of supply helps us lower the pressures on the system and increases the reliability that we have and those were very key themes that we saw the benefit of during the winter storm this last year where we were able to bring in supply from different points and maintain pressures on our system and have really good performance and reliability for our customers. So, just a little additional color on the question you were asking Kody.

Kody ClarkBank of America — Analyst

Got it. That’s helpful. And then maybe shifting to kind of the credit side, and can you kind of give some color on what the most recent dialog has been with the rating agencies. I mean, they still have you on negative outlook though recovery of the extraordinary cost seems largely de-risked at this point in our Oklahoma and Texas. The debt will be issued by the state, so just any thoughts there? Any updated thoughts and the most recent dialog?

Caron LawhornSenior Vice President & Chief Financial Officer

Sure, Kody. We have a lot of dialog during the storm and when the rating agencies took their action and at that time, they indicated that they would be patient. Obviously, we’re on negative outlook. But that gives us time to work through securitization and again they indicated they would watch the regulatory process and see how securitization plays out before they make any additional steps. So, not a lot of dialog since we’ll be on our annual visit within a few months, and we’ll go from there.

Kody ClarkBank of America — Analyst

Got it. Okay. And then just one last one from me and it’s from the Oklahoma rate case. I’m just wondering what the feedback has been so far from parties especially as it’s here first-rate case in the state. And is there any chance that you can settle there?

Curtis DinanSenior Vice President & Chief Commercial Officer

Just a couple of things. One, it’s actually our second rate case since then. We did about a year and a half after spin, did the first one in the PBR filings that we’ve been doing the last five years have been the result for the outcome following that rate case. In the current rate case, the responsive testimony is due in the early part of September and so that’s really when we’ll get the first read of where the commission staff, as well as other interveners stand on the issues in the rate case. So we’ll have a better sense of that once we see their testimony.

Kody ClarkBank of America — Analyst

Great, that’s all I had. Thanks for taking my questions and congrats again.

Sid McAnnallySenior Vice President & Chief Operating Officer

Thank you, Kody.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] We’ll take our next question from Vedula Murti with Hudson Bay Capital.

Vedula MurtiHudson Bay Capital — Analyst

Good morning.

Sid McAnnallySenior Vice President & Chief Operating Officer

Good morning.

Vedula MurtiHudson Bay Capital — Analyst

In terms of the — given the initiative filings for securitization where on the 180 day calendars for Oklahoma and Kansas and the 150 plus 90 in Texas, at what point will the prudency of the conduct of the activities and so we think like that be addressed will be within these 180-day processes such that we will [indecipherable] any question has to prudency dollars or whether full dollars, or partial dollars, how should we be thinking about that?

Curtis DinanSenior Vice President & Chief Commercial Officer

So let me take that by each state separately. So you’re correct in Texas that in the 150 day period is when those items are being reviewed. Similarly in Oklahoma, it’s during the 180 day period that those costs are getting are being reviewed for prudency. In Kansas, just to clarify, the first thing that happens is the filing that we made and procedural schedule still has to be established by the commission to evaluate our compliance report. So we filed the compliance report and it begins that process. But until they review that and approve it, then the 180 day clock starts at that point. So there is not a set timeline in that first step to review that compliance report and we’ll have a better sense here over the next few weeks as a procedural schedule gets established.

Vedula MurtiHudson Bay Capital — Analyst

Given that, all the various constituencies knew that this filings were coming and these timelines were there. Can you help us think about what feedback you’ve gotten from them in terms of addressing the issue of prudence or is it more about duration of recovery period. Is it more about the carry cost rate, how people have been kind of address — interacting with you in anticipation of these clients?

Curtis DinanSenior Vice President & Chief Commercial Officer

Well, all of those issues that you just raised are part of the considerations and at the end of the day, it’s really about the impact to the customer’s bill so that each of the commissions are sensitive to that. Obviously everyone would like to have a very short period and get this behind, but it’s also in some cases, not as possible to do that because of the impact that it would have on the customers’ bill. So, there have been lots of discussions around that the time periods for recovery. And as an example of that, you saw in our Kansas compliance report that we proposed a five, seven, or 10-year recovery period and that’s really based upon what the objective is that the commission would like to see in terms of the customer bill impact once the financing moves forward.

So, everything you just raised are part of the discussions we’ll have to see how the next several months play out as to where we end up in each state.

Vedula MurtiHudson Bay Capital — Analyst

[Indecipherable] maybe perhaps fair to characterize though that the conversation put focus more on the duration and the carrier rate and things of that nature as opposed to the prudence of conduct and prudence of the dollar amount that are being discussed here?

Curtis DinanSenior Vice President & Chief Commercial Officer

No, I don’t think one excludes the other because the prudency reviews are very important. They were very important to us as we review the invoices and review the contracts and [Phonetic] agreements under which those volumes were delivered to make sure everything was in compliance and now the commissions will go through that same process to make sure that what we paid for the gas was in compliance with those things. And just maybe as a reminder, we do have compliance reviews every year. So while the dollars are much bigger, the process isn’t really different from our normal prudency reviews.

Vedula MurtiHudson Bay Capital — Analyst

Okay. Because it does not appear at least as far as I’m aware that anyone has fundamentally questioned your practices or had proven himself [indecipherable] operations during this period. Is that accurate?

Curtis DinanSenior Vice President & Chief Commercial Officer

Well, in terms of our commissions, that’s why we’re doing the compliance report. So we’re getting them the information. So they can make that evaluation. And so —

Vedula MurtiHudson Bay Capital — Analyst

I’m thinking more about third parties and other stakeholders.

Curtis DinanSenior Vice President & Chief Commercial Officer

Yes. I don’t know if I can comment on all stakeholders and other third parties and comments that they’ve made. The important part is that the compliance that we’re doing with our regulators that have the authority to review our costs and determine the prudency of the actions that we took during the winter storm. So that’s really the piece that matters most to us.

Vedula MurtiHudson Bay Capital — Analyst

Okay. And I guess one last thing in terms of obviously with the growth opportunities and initiatives and other capital opportunities, how should we be thinking about the balancing of funding those and the recovery cost recovery of those versus having to balance that with the cost recovery associated with Uri and the historical costs?

Curtis DinanSenior Vice President & Chief Commercial Officer

Those are all things we consider in evaluating what our investments are going to be each year in terms of the capital dollars that we spend and we’ve given guidance on what to expect from a financing standpoint and Caron can certainly provide more context around that. But we go through that process each year of determining what our capital spend is likely to be where we’re allocating that spending. We consider the impact is one of the things is the resources to physically get the work done. Second, the financial ability to fund the work and also then the impact that it has on the customer bill. So all those things are considered. The one data point I would share with you is that an average customer on our system, their monthly bill averages about $60. And so, that includes the gas cost as well as the return of and the return on our capital and the cost of service.

So, that gives you some perspective of the actual natural gas bill that customers have in relation maybe to some of the other bills they have every month.

Vedula MurtiHudson Bay Capital — Analyst

Okay. Thank you very much.

Operator

With no additional questions —

Curtis DinanSenior Vice President & Chief Commercial Officer

Thank you.

Operator

At this time, I’d like to turn the call back over to Mr. Lohse for any additional or closing remarks.

Brandon LohseDirector of Investor Relations

Thank you all, again, for your interest in ONE Gas. Our quiet period for the third quarter starts when we close our books at the end of September and extends until we release earnings in early November. We will provide details on the conference call at a later date. Have a great day.

Operator

[Operator Closing Remarks]

Duration: 43 minutes

Call participants:

Brandon LohseDirector of Investor Relations

Sid McAnnallySenior Vice President & Chief Operating Officer

Caron LawhornSenior Vice President & Chief Financial Officer

Curtis DinanSenior Vice President & Chief Commercial Officer

Gabe MoreenMizuho — Analyst

Stephen ByrdMorgan Stanley — Analyst

Kody ClarkBank of America — Analyst

Vedula MurtiHudson Bay Capital — Analyst

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